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	<title>Comments on: Window button ordering</title>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=27ecfada6258e22f92da0c5c9ffafd47&#38;size=35&#38;default=http://www.purinchu.net/wp/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/b8d597083a94190.png" alt="Sam Spilsbury Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Sam Spilsbury</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Compiz supports button ordering on all 3 decorators, just use the native configuration tools for each DE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compiz supports button ordering on all 3 decorators, just use the native configuration tools for each DE.</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=7ec143857631e95412b81c9956dddfb3&#38;size=35&#38;default=http://www.purinchu.net/wp/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/fd8c9dd7d410b08.png" alt="Fri13 Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Fri13</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have currently no buttons in the decoration.

To close the window, I press middle button on window decoration.
I can close window from any part and without mistakes.

To minimize window I click the taskbar. Same place where I need to click it back after minimized. Very logical.

Scrollwheel up/down sets window to be under, default or top  of other windowses. Easy to do and lets me to use that more.

Double click does shadow the window only as decoration and back.

To maximize the window, I just drag it top of the screen edge. Same thing to 50% maximization with right and left edges.

I can do all needed functions, without mistakes and without any buttons in toolbar.

Only thing what I miss is the maximize button functions when you click them with middle or with right mouse button. You get maximized with horizontal or vertical direction.

Only thing what I hope I could configure (wish filled to BKO) the double click of window decoration to close the window. Then place the middle button as something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have currently no buttons in the decoration.</p>
<p>To close the window, I press middle button on window decoration.<br />
I can close window from any part and without mistakes.</p>
<p>To minimize window I click the taskbar. Same place where I need to click it back after minimized. Very logical.</p>
<p>Scrollwheel up/down sets window to be under, default or top  of other windowses. Easy to do and lets me to use that more.</p>
<p>Double click does shadow the window only as decoration and back.</p>
<p>To maximize the window, I just drag it top of the screen edge. Same thing to 50% maximization with right and left edges.</p>
<p>I can do all needed functions, without mistakes and without any buttons in toolbar.</p>
<p>Only thing what I miss is the maximize button functions when you click them with middle or with right mouse button. You get maximized with horizontal or vertical direction.</p>
<p>Only thing what I hope I could configure (wish filled to BKO) the double click of window decoration to close the window. Then place the middle button as something else.</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=72fb2c885d2061685447dfb2698c32cb&#38;size=35&#38;default=http://www.purinchu.net/wp/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/22d19ad329df24a.png" alt="John W Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> John W</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a very similar button layout in KDE and bb4win (for my work machine).  I have grown to despise the buttons all grouped up in one place after intending to click one, and accidentally clicking the wrong one.

Close works so much better isolated.

But what works even better is the very slick key mapping that has been in KDE since I started heavily using it ... 5+ years ago (I think) ... long enough for me to say &quot;for as along as I can remember&quot;.

This is where Gnome falls down, and it doesn&#039;t have to.  I am dumbfounded that in those same many years, there has never been a polite interface to edit the gnome config to handle the silly nuisances like button placement and the pixel size of the visible part of a (not so very) &quot;hidden&quot; panel.  Even then, convenient key bindings are left to Compiz -- which has always looked cool, but been such a pain to configure that I regularly gave up on it.

KDE won me long ago because I didn&#039;t have to argue with cryptic files or commands to alter button placement or get key bindings to work.  That&#039;s what works for me -- I know a few people who want to do it all with the mouse and Gnome is heaven for them.

Hooray for choice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a very similar button layout in KDE and bb4win (for my work machine).  I have grown to despise the buttons all grouped up in one place after intending to click one, and accidentally clicking the wrong one.</p>
<p>Close works so much better isolated.</p>
<p>But what works even better is the very slick key mapping that has been in KDE since I started heavily using it &#8230; 5+ years ago (I think) &#8230; long enough for me to say &#8220;for as along as I can remember&#8221;.</p>
<p>This is where Gnome falls down, and it doesn&#8217;t have to.  I am dumbfounded that in those same many years, there has never been a polite interface to edit the gnome config to handle the silly nuisances like button placement and the pixel size of the visible part of a (not so very) &#8220;hidden&#8221; panel.  Even then, convenient key bindings are left to Compiz &#8212; which has always looked cool, but been such a pain to configure that I regularly gave up on it.</p>
<p>KDE won me long ago because I didn&#8217;t have to argue with cryptic files or commands to alter button placement or get key bindings to work.  That&#8217;s what works for me &#8212; I know a few people who want to do it all with the mouse and Gnome is heaven for them.</p>
<p>Hooray for choice!</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Metacity supports ordering the buttons, but not as nice as in KWin: you have to use gconf. Which renders it a non-changeable option for Ubuntu&#039;s targeted user base IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Metacity supports ordering the buttons, but not as nice as in KWin: you have to use gconf. Which renders it a non-changeable option for Ubuntu&#8217;s targeted user base IMO.</p>
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