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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=2e814b118243838f6cad43da36e3e797&#38;size=35&#38;default=http://www.purinchu.net/wp/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/063b2d0a763c884.png" alt="gisforgnu Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> gisforgnu</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact is that Migule de Icaza and his henchman &quot;Lefty&quot; and other minions are waging a propaganda war on Free software on behalf of Novell and, by proxy, Microsoft to shove Mono down everyone&#039;s throat.

Try reading the Boycott Boycott Novell site, which de Icaza actually annonced, endorses, and appears in the comments on.

Juvenile, hateful, and disgusting.

Goodbye Gnome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact is that Migule de Icaza and his henchman &#8220;Lefty&#8221; and other minions are waging a propaganda war on Free software on behalf of Novell and, by proxy, Microsoft to shove Mono down everyone&#8217;s throat.</p>
<p>Try reading the Boycott Boycott Novell site, which de Icaza actually annonced, endorses, and appears in the comments on.</p>
<p>Juvenile, hateful, and disgusting.</p>
<p>Goodbye Gnome.</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e&#38;size=35&#38;default=http://www.purinchu.net/wp/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/969a61db97440b6.png" alt=" Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 21:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep in mind this discussion is about planet gnome. Stallman wants to have it &quot;moderated&quot; (censored?) to not have any posts about proprietary software. There is essentially no chance of the gnome project &quot;ending&quot; over this as some comments have suggested.

@Garth - I agree completely. Plus, there is the following disclaimer on planet gnome: 

&quot;Planet GNOME automatically reposts blog entries from the GNOME community. Entries on this page are owned by their authors. We do not edit, endorse or vouch for the contents of individual posts.&quot;

So Stallman&#039;s assertion that aggregating these posts on the planet represents an endorsement of proprietary software is absurd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep in mind this discussion is about planet gnome. Stallman wants to have it &#8220;moderated&#8221; (censored?) to not have any posts about proprietary software. There is essentially no chance of the gnome project &#8220;ending&#8221; over this as some comments have suggested.</p>
<p>@Garth &#8211; I agree completely. Plus, there is the following disclaimer on planet gnome: </p>
<p>&#8220;Planet GNOME automatically reposts blog entries from the GNOME community. Entries on this page are owned by their authors. We do not edit, endorse or vouch for the contents of individual posts.&#8221;</p>
<p>So Stallman&#8217;s assertion that aggregating these posts on the planet represents an endorsement of proprietary software is absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=082c1217dd3a8dc99e5ad6fe44078de7&#38;size=35&#38;default=http://www.purinchu.net/wp/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/16d5d339029a8bb.png" alt="Garth Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Garth</title>
		<link>http://www.purinchu.net/wp/2009/12/12/gnome-slashdot/comment-page-1/#comment-6315</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 21:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But everyone in these discussions seems to be missing the actual point - I read planets to see what people involved in the projects are up to. When people start saying &quot;That has nothing to do with free software&quot; I lose some insight into the developers lives and feel like a poorer person for it. Yes, Miguel&#039;s post was just a blatant ad, however most people mentioning proprietary software do so because they are interested in it as people, not because it makes them money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But everyone in these discussions seems to be missing the actual point &#8211; I read planets to see what people involved in the projects are up to. When people start saying &#8220;That has nothing to do with free software&#8221; I lose some insight into the developers lives and feel like a poorer person for it. Yes, Miguel&#8217;s post was just a blatant ad, however most people mentioning proprietary software do so because they are interested in it as people, not because it makes them money.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor GNOME :( I so hope they (as a project) will be able to carry on inspite all of this unrest within their core. First GNOME2, and now this... There is nothing wrong with GNOME as a desktop, and there is nothing wrong with taking away certain configurability in favour of stability and experience. I may not like it personally, but that is just my opinnion. On the other hand if (God forbid) something does happen to GNOME, what will KDE do all alone? :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor GNOME :( I so hope they (as a project) will be able to carry on inspite all of this unrest within their core. First GNOME2, and now this&#8230; There is nothing wrong with GNOME as a desktop, and there is nothing wrong with taking away certain configurability in favour of stability and experience. I may not like it personally, but that is just my opinnion. On the other hand if (God forbid) something does happen to GNOME, what will KDE do all alone? :(</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=0d5d89acf04b3e39bd8a060d677084f2&#38;size=35&#38;default=http://www.purinchu.net/wp/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/9e437dc72cfd7ef.png" alt="andre klapper Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> andre klapper</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, seeing the history and that G in GNOME once stand for GNU, it definitely is ironic. But the question is: What is &quot;FSF philosophy&quot;? Does the FSF want to become negative by fighting against closed source instead of being positive by pushing free software?

@Tommy.S: Repeating incorrect assumptions does not make them become more true. The only Mono based application in official GNOME is Tomboy. It&#039;s been like that for years and there are no plans to change that currently. Also there is Gnote (a port of Tomboy) for those that care more about languages than about user experience.

@Emil Sedgh: What was holding GNOME to be a GNU project by now? Probably there simply never was enough reason to discuss the status quo, hence you remain in the current state... Now there is reason to discuss. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, seeing the history and that G in GNOME once stand for GNU, it definitely is ironic. But the question is: What is &#8220;FSF philosophy&#8221;? Does the FSF want to become negative by fighting against closed source instead of being positive by pushing free software?</p>
<p>@Tommy.S: Repeating incorrect assumptions does not make them become more true. The only Mono based application in official GNOME is Tomboy. It&#8217;s been like that for years and there are no plans to change that currently. Also there is Gnote (a port of Tomboy) for those that care more about languages than about user experience.</p>
<p>@Emil Sedgh: What was holding GNOME to be a GNU project by now? Probably there simply never was enough reason to discuss the status quo, hence you remain in the current state&#8230; Now there is reason to discuss. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=71e12adaaa8825355695d93e8878085e&#38;size=35&#38;default=http://www.purinchu.net/wp/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/81c6c3e02826ef8.png" alt="Vorker Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Vorker</title>
		<link>http://www.purinchu.net/wp/2009/12/12/gnome-slashdot/comment-page-1/#comment-6311</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tommy.S

You&#039;re probably confusing GNU with Gnome:

Gnome related:

&quot;And to be certain sure that GDE SC is easy to use, we just delete all other configs from panels and settings and we leave only one what is most used.&quot;

and GNU related in some way (because they rather prefer Linux then Hurd):

&quot;The next step after that is to start demanding all software what use GDE SC platform to be licensed under GPLv3. And instead Linux OS, we start suggesting all people to use GNU’s own Hurd OS&quot;.

Both scenarios are like some horror ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tommy.S</p>
<p>You&#8217;re probably confusing GNU with Gnome:</p>
<p>Gnome related:</p>
<p>&#8220;And to be certain sure that GDE SC is easy to use, we just delete all other configs from panels and settings and we leave only one what is most used.&#8221;</p>
<p>and GNU related in some way (because they rather prefer Linux then Hurd):</p>
<p>&#8220;The next step after that is to start demanding all software what use GDE SC platform to be licensed under GPLv3. And instead Linux OS, we start suggesting all people to use GNU’s own Hurd OS&#8221;.</p>
<p>Both scenarios are like some horror ;)</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 10:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On next days news, KDE is voting to be attached to GNU. Needed votes are 0.5% to pass it.

Changes after it will bee that we rebrand that KDE SC to GDE SC and we do not use KDE anymore to express community but instead we use FSF for it.

And to be certain sure that GDE SC is easy to use, we just delete all other configs from panels and settings and we leave only one what is most used.

The next step after that is to start demanding all software what use GDE SC platform to be licensed under GPLv3. And instead Linux OS, we start suggesting all people to use GNU&#039;s own Hurd OS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On next days news, KDE is voting to be attached to GNU. Needed votes are 0.5% to pass it.</p>
<p>Changes after it will bee that we rebrand that KDE SC to GDE SC and we do not use KDE anymore to express community but instead we use FSF for it.</p>
<p>And to be certain sure that GDE SC is easy to use, we just delete all other configs from panels and settings and we leave only one what is most used.</p>
<p>The next step after that is to start demanding all software what use GDE SC platform to be licensed under GPLv3. And instead Linux OS, we start suggesting all people to use GNU&#8217;s own Hurd OS.</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=74623ddea0bf4667d402352f9e2d794c&#38;size=35&#38;default=http://www.purinchu.net/wp/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/fa565adae84d18f.png" alt="R Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> R</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 04:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s great we can enjoy a modern desktop like KDE SC with a GPL v3 instead of.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s great we can enjoy a modern desktop like KDE SC with a GPL v3 instead of.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=74623ddea0bf4667d402352f9e2d794c&#38;size=35&#38;default=http://www.purinchu.net/wp/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/fa565adae84d18f.png" alt="R Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> R</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 04:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you are rigth it&#039;s ironic, very ironic. A desktop that initialy was named GNU OBJECT.... nowadays is refusing fsf philosophy....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you are rigth it&#8217;s ironic, very ironic. A desktop that initialy was named GNU OBJECT&#8230;. nowadays is refusing fsf philosophy&#8230;.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Esben has a good point, I wasn&#039;t really clear in my post that the only action taken right now has been a call for a vote to detach from GNU (which I still find strange enough). I don&#039;t think it would spell the end of GNOME or anything nearly that drastic as I would imagine standard operating procedure would simply continue more-or-less unchanged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Esben has a good point, I wasn&#8217;t really clear in my post that the only action taken right now has been a call for a vote to detach from GNU (which I still find strange enough). I don&#8217;t think it would spell the end of GNOME or anything nearly that drastic as I would imagine standard operating procedure would simply continue more-or-less unchanged.</p>
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